Yikes, In A Good Way
Polls are polls are polls – you can put as much belief in them as you’d like. That said, it seems a recent American Research Group poll found that 45% of those polled are in favour of the impeachment of President Bush, with 46% of those polled in favour of the impeachment of Vice President Cheney.
Whether you consider such things of import, the fact remains that politically those numbers are a nightmare for the administration. Being opposed to the war and various other aspects of the administration’s policies is one thing, but when almost half of those polled believe the President and Vice President should be impeached, that’s simply disastrous.
Of course, to men like Bush and Cheney, reports of this nature serve specific purposes – such as use in their fireplaces or to test new paper shredders.
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July 6th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
That is absolutely beautiful.
July 6th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
[quote comment="18713"]That is absolutely beautiful.[/quote]
You said it brother!!! BEAUTIFUL!
July 6th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
I sometimes don’t understand why a “significant minority” means nothing in polls. Just the fact that this number is even CLOSE to 50% should be cause for action, right? The USA seems like a hundred different countries and cultures in one place, and with so many unique voices, that fact that almost 50% can all agree on one thing should be in the headlines!
July 6th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
For those that would like to bring more attention to the possibility of impeachment.
http://impeachcheney.org/
July 6th, 2007 at 7:07 pm
Now if only Pelosi can grow a backbone on the impeachment issue.
July 6th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
Being from the States I voted my ass off Dems all the way last year…and then to watch them cave in again and again is disgusting really. I mean - everyone makes fun of the liberal leprechaun (Kucinich) but he is the only one with any balls.
They come up with these “non-binding resolutions” that mean nothing. It’s all parliamentary B.S. - just wait til’ any of these people are up for re-election. The country is really pissed. I’ve been pissed since way before Kerry won…errr, lost or whatever that joke of fixed election that was. And that’s why now, when the votes are on the line, Republicans are finally realizing what kind of jeopardy their “career” is in riding along in the Bush/Cheney sidecar to oblivion. Every day now a new one pops up against the war all of sudden. It’s like they have all been sprinkled with Peace flavored miracle gro or something…
July 6th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Impeach hell, I want them jailed.
July 6th, 2007 at 7:33 pm
I’m an American and I wasn’t polled but I’m definitely up for some impeachment.
July 6th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
Im actually quite surprised the numbers are so low.
If I talked with say 20 of my co-workers, I bet 3 of them would disagree with impeaching Bush. Course I live in Soviet Canukistan, so things are probably different here than the States.
July 6th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
I’d really love to see them both impeached. It would make my year.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
Throw them in the Fletcher Memorial Home!
July 6th, 2007 at 10:53 pm
In some ways I don’t think it’s the democrats fault for failing to impeach Bush, I think they just know they don’t have the majority vote needed to succed. Still a lot of them are pussies, and probably 1/6 of the democrats in congress could be considered neo-cons anyways.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
holy balls i never thought it would be that high. Go americans! Now how about the same people pressure their political representitives to ACTUALLY impeach the SOB’s. Actions not words people.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:02 am
And let the Bush hating begin……boy this does get tiring; I love how people look at this man like he is the devil. Allow me to remind you all that there are and have been far worse leaders than him….
July 7th, 2007 at 12:46 am
I have to agree with the call for action. Those numbers are surprising.
And kanji, I overwhelmingly agree with your statements; however, I don’t think Matt’s blogging this to start another ruckus of Bush/Cheney hate thoughts and such. He’s just stating the facts. (And he’s also stating that they can be pretty ignorant when it comes to important things like this…)
July 7th, 2007 at 4:09 am
Im just going to reiterate something I said in a previous comment:
I love my country, I love my constitution and I love my freedom. Maybe its because my parents belonged to “the greatest generation”. A generation that fought daily for EVERYTHING I have RIGHT NOW! Knowing what my parents and mostly everyone else’s grandparents did for me, the country I live in, the community I reside, the ongoing debates are embarassing. I am hard pressed to find one american citizen born here that is grateful on a daily basis to live in a free society. I sometimes have more in common with a recent immigrant than my own community. THAT frustrates me. Don’t talk to me about accountability within the government until you show me strong examples of accountability within anytown, USA. My government is accountable, the most recent Senate elections prove such things. However, my federal government is NOT responsible for what happens in MY state or MY county or MY town. I AM!
The Federal Government is a reflection of local american communities. It is truly disturbing to hear and see how the world views the United States. Even within my own country, there is disgust.
My father used to say “Show me your friends and I will show you who you are” but I see his wisdom can be replaced with any word. Show me your government and I will show you who you are, Show me your passion and I will show you who you are, Show me your parents and I will show you who you are……
July 7th, 2007 at 8:33 am
You’ve made a good point. The problem is when everyone is allowed to participate in the system as equals, it’s gold. When it’s used to gain wealth and stay in power, you get what you have now. I love my country also. You try to tell a room full of blind Bush lovers about white phosphorus and Abu Ghraib, about micro-targeted voter suppression…and all that returns are the Limbaugh sound bites. Start thinking for yourself and question authority a little. Show me your votes and I’ll show you who you are. It’s all there in black and white. The guys I have voted for since 1988(when I was of age) weren’t sending kids off to die for WMD’s that didn’t exist, terrorist connections that weren’t there, using renditions to foreign countries to escape torture laws. Maybe the world view of us has to do with some of those things, and probably a few others. And being the big guy on top, there are always going to be people looking for an excuse to bash you. Don’t give them excuses!! Simple as that. It is embarrassing the way the world views us…and to some extent it’s our own fault. Acting like your local government is not connected to the Federal government isn’t going to help anything.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:13 am
[quote post="1254"]Of course, to men like Bush and Cheney, reports of this nature serve specific purposes – such as use in their fireplaces or to test new paper shredders.[/quote]
… or to wipe their nether regions after a very satisfying visit to the toilet.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:15 am
[quote comment="18757"]And let the Bush hating begin……boy this does get tiring; I love how people look at this man like he is the devil. Allow me to remind you all that there are and have been far worse leaders than him….[/quote]
We’ve been down this road before. The statement “there have been far worse than him” implies that he’s a bad leader…why settle for that? Because there’s been worse? (in your view). Shouldn’t you expect better than that from a leader?
July 7th, 2007 at 11:53 am
Matt, you also have to take into account that most ppl have never been polled. I have never been nor do I know anyone who has. That said, EVERYONE I talk to wants Bush impeached. Cheney as well. I can only imagine how much higher the pro-impeachment percentage would be if it was feasible for more Americans to be polled. I’m going to contact my congressmen and tell them I would like them to support Dennis Kucinich’s articles of impeachment against Cheney. Anyone fellow Americans on this board who’d like to join me I have only one piece of advise: Write a hand written letter. Just one. I know that sounds agonizing but it’s much more effective. My neighbor is a state representative and he said his people get so many messages (emails, handwritten, phone calls, etc) that the first messages they take seriously are handwritten. it shows you care. Emails can often be discarded because many people flood their inboxes with numerous amounts of an identical letter. I loved Kucinich’s response to a reporter who asked, “Why start with Cheney? Why not Bush?” He then explained that if Bush were to be impeached then Cheney would become president. I think we can all agree that’d be even worse. All the evidence that would be used to take down Cheney would very likely be applicable to Bush.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
weren’t there similar polls done before the last election producing similar results? and Bush got re-elected…..
July 7th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
Well, yes. I guess that statement is something of a cop-out. However, could you imagine John Kerry in his position? Just to clarify something with all of you who believe that the Iraq war happened due to Bush lying and misleading the public; the intel they had at the time (both US and Britain) pointed towards Iraq having WMD’s and Al Qaeda connections. (see Bob Woodwards Plan of Attack) They acted upon this intel and invaded. I support the war and have since day 1. I have always looked at it that at the very worst they were getting rid of Saddam; who, we should all not forget, is a mass-murderer of his own people. The international community should never have allowed him to do what he did; he should have been removed from power a long time ago. The atrocities committed by that regime were horrific. The war was obviously mismanaged and thats Bush’s biggest blunder. He, in my mind, is a competant leader and not “stupid” like the popular Canadian sentiment seems to be. Rather, he is not skilled at choosing who to surround himself with.
Would just like to say its always great to go out and discuss this stuff with people. Too many people I know dont care at all about anything like this and people really should. Site is great Matt; even though I dont agree with some of your views keep doing what your doing.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
Not true. I’m losing who the person was, but I think it was John Snow (Foreign Policy chief?) of Britain that came back to his government stating “they are fixing the intelligence around the policy”. It was and is fixed. If almost 4,000 American troops and 650,000 dead Iraqis is better than having Saddam around - hey nice job.
And as for Bush being competent - that’s an amazing statement I don’t have time to rebut at this moment. But I can and will.
Yes, John Kerry seemed to have common sense, I’m sure it wouldn’t have went like this. Positive.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
[quote comment="18796"]weren’t there similar polls done before the last election producing similar results? and Bush got re-elected…..[/quote]
no. his favorability was low as was kerry’s. those were not referring to wanting bush impeached. this is new and startling news.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
As a California resident who watched with wonder as the state spent millions of dollars impeaching the governor and replacing it with an actor, it blows my mind that this hasn’t all ready been done to a President who has certainly committed more crimes in one year than Davis did in his whole career. How does this HAPPEN? I can’t help but just be completely bewildered.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
To my American neighbours,
i have many American friends (im Canadian), and what disturbs me is that the vast majority of them, even the ones who seem “on the ball” with things that are happening in the world & in their own country, do not understand how much power & responsibility they hold. Being an American adult living in the most powerful country in the world means having the right to vote & to influence global policy unlike any other citizens in the world.
Most americans take this power for granted. They may vote & be active politically etc., but do you Americans truly understand the power, influence, and responsibility you hold? Being a Canadian, my vote & my letters to my politicians aren’t worth too much a damn in the global scheme of things.
The world looks to you, the citizens of America, to do the right things, because your actions & inactions affect all our lives in profound ways.
July 8th, 2007 at 12:15 am
I’m with you Keebler, that was like a bad movie. I kept expecting someone to say “just kidding!” Every time the Governator uses a terminator line in a speech I cringe.
July 8th, 2007 at 8:11 am
I think these numbers are less significant than one might think. I’m pretty sure you could have polled the same poll the day that Bush was sworn in and you’d have at least 30% ready to Impeach him for stealing the election. There’s no doubt his personal approval numbers are down, even with Republicans, but America is so divided right now that it’s unfortunately means little for the next election. Democrats who think they’ll have a stroll to the White House are mistaken. If anything Bush has lost support among the Republican base for his handling of the war, not for going to war but for botching what’s happened, and for Immigration Reform where he stands actually much closer to Democrats than his own party.
Clearly the less support he has the better, but it’s still very possible that a pro-war Republican (McCain) or Democrat will win the Presidency.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
[quote comment="18724"]Impeach hell, I want them jailed.[/quote]
hell ya amen brother