Comments on: Hearns Never Asked For Help From NATO Versus Hagler http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/ MUSIC NEWS COMMENTARY DESIGN ACTIVISM Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:42:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Patrick Pitt http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48540 Patrick Pitt Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:23:04 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48540 Agent-K - halleluja. Agent-K - halleluja.

]]> By: vika http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48532 vika Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:42:08 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48532 Maybe its not too late... Oh well, there's always next time! Damn, jokes and irony are hard to get across. Maybe its not too late… Oh well, there’s always next time! Damn, jokes and irony are hard to get across.

]]> By: Agent-K http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48523 Agent-K Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:33:51 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48523 Its a shame that the analogy doesn't get extended much beyond the surface in regards to the Canadian mission to Afghanistan. Every good fighter I know of, when faced with the potential of defeat, re-evaluates their plan to achieve victory and changes their method of attack to suit. Yet when it comes to Afghanistan, near as I can tell, we're still following plans laid out roughly seven years ago and which don't seem to be undergoing any re-evaluation at all with regards to achieving victory/success. Its a shame that the analogy doesn’t get extended much beyond the surface in regards to the Canadian mission to Afghanistan. Every good fighter I know of, when faced with the potential of defeat, re-evaluates their plan to achieve victory and changes their method of attack to suit. Yet when it comes to Afghanistan, near as I can tell, we’re still following plans laid out roughly seven years ago and which don’t seem to be undergoing any re-evaluation at all with regards to achieving victory/success.

]]> By: Patrick Pitt http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48497 Patrick Pitt Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:43:33 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48497 Vika i'm joking- we all know I'd destroy Hilary and Obama if I ever entered! Vika i’m joking- we all know I’d destroy Hilary and Obama if I ever entered!

]]> By: fleeter http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48495 fleeter Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:28:24 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48495 Good post Patrick. Canada's mission is in need of help. People keep dying - far too many have and many more will before this thing is over. Then again, will it ever actually be over? Good post Patrick. Canada’s mission is in need of help. People keep dying - far too many have and many more will before this thing is over. Then again, will it ever actually be over?

]]> By: vika http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48444 vika Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:20:13 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48444 [quote comment="48424"]Vika - I said it first a few months ago so Obama should credit me. The problem is, dare I say we've gotten dumber and that we'd see the name Muhammed and condemn him worst than he was in the 60's. It would be nice to have a few mainstream heros really stick their neck out. Not like the Film Actor's Guild, but some that would really suffer like Ali did. Emily- very true, two world champs from Sarnia. Must be something in the water down there.[/quote] Patrick, I obviously did not know about your comment and was not trying to take any credit away from you. This is not a presidential race after all :) What should Obama credit me for? My comment does not support him personally in any way. Quoting Patrick Pitt:

Vika - I said it first a few months ago so Obama should credit me. The problem is, dare I say we’ve gotten dumber and that we’d see the name Muhammed and condemn him worst than he was in the 60’s.

It would be nice to have a few mainstream heros really stick their neck out. Not like the Film Actor’s Guild, but some that would really suffer like Ali did.

Emily- very true, two world champs from Sarnia. Must be something in the water down there.

Patrick, I obviously did not know about your comment and was not trying to take any credit away from you. This is not a presidential race after all :)

What should Obama credit me for? My comment does not support him personally in any way.

]]> By: Emily Plunkett http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48438 Emily Plunkett Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:06:27 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48438 [quote comment="48424"]Emily- very true, two world champs from Sarnia. Must be something in the water down there.[/quote] There's something in the water alright. More often than not it produces some of the stranger individuals his world has to ofter but sometimes we get some winners. Quoting Patrick Pitt:

Emily- very true, two world champs from Sarnia. Must be something in the water down there.

There’s something in the water alright. More often than not it produces some of the stranger individuals his world has to ofter but sometimes we get some winners.

]]> By: Patrick Pitt http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48437 Patrick Pitt Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:05:23 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48437 If you go to raymi's site and look for the naked video of me you'll see that that statement is true on several levels If you go to raymi’s site and look for the naked video of me you’ll see that that statement is true on several levels

]]> By: Samar Mazloum http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48432 Samar Mazloum Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:54:38 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48432 Thanx for the b-day wishes everyone. Patrick, always the entertainer ;-) Thanx for the b-day wishes everyone.

Patrick, always the entertainer ;-)

]]> By: Patrick Pitt http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48424 Patrick Pitt Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:01:41 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48424 Vika - I said it first a few months ago so Obama should credit me. The problem is, dare I say we've gotten dumber and that we'd see the name Muhammed and condemn him worst than he was in the 60's. It would be nice to have a few mainstream heros really stick their neck out. Not like the Film Actor's Guild, but some that would really suffer like Ali did. Emily- very true, two world champs from Sarnia. Must be something in the water down there. Vika - I said it first a few months ago so Obama should credit me. The problem is, dare I say we’ve gotten dumber and that we’d see the name Muhammed and condemn him worst than he was in the 60’s.

It would be nice to have a few mainstream heros really stick their neck out. Not like the Film Actor’s Guild, but some that would really suffer like Ali did.

Emily- very true, two world champs from Sarnia. Must be something in the water down there.

]]> By: Emily Plunkett http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48413 Emily Plunkett Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:47:42 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48413 Yes, happy birthday to Raymi and Samar. Coinciding birthdays are always fun. Steve Molitor = pride of Sarnia, right up there with Mike Weir. :) Yes, happy birthday to Raymi and Samar. Coinciding birthdays are always fun.

Steve Molitor = pride of Sarnia, right up there with Mike Weir. :)

]]> By: Ashleigh-Dawn http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48405 Ashleigh-Dawn Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:09:03 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48405 Nothing like a good old fashioned compare and contrast. Good stuff... Happy Birthday(s), Ladies!!!!! Nothing like a good old fashioned compare and contrast.
Good stuff…

Happy Birthday(s), Ladies!!!!!

]]> By: vika http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48404 vika Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:02:22 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48404 I know this was about Canada, but this is not entirely off topic. As I was watching that poetry contest clip "Obama ..." a few days back a vision emerged... If only Ali was younger, U.S. could have had a truly Eloquent Charismatic Black Muslim president (whose speeches were not scripted as far as I know). I know this was about Canada, but this is not entirely off topic. As I was watching that poetry contest clip “Obama …” a few days back a vision emerged… If only Ali was younger, U.S. could have had a truly Eloquent Charismatic Black Muslim president (whose speeches were not scripted as far as I know).

]]> By: Brian Smart http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48391 Brian Smart Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:42:43 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48391 Thanks Patrick. Yep...NATO not UN. Definite absence of blue helmets. Thanks Patrick. Yep…NATO not UN. Definite absence of blue helmets.

]]> By: Patrick Pitt http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48388 Patrick Pitt Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:28:57 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48388 Brian i'd pay to get hit by the Marvelous one! But no excuses necessary. I'm with you on setting things to time line. Operations aren't egg timers. Though there is more than the reason you listed as to why that shouldn't be the case. The main one that always gets under my skin is the lack of definitiion to an end. What is"success". What is a "stable working" gov't? And how is one put into place by a multi-national force. I think you mean NATO instead of UN. There are no UN forces in Afghanistan. There is a plan for the ANA to step up - but the schedule for that to happen is fairly unrealistic - see Roy's Post about the ammo below. Margo- thank God it's Toronto and we have the SkyDOME. Because when I go to the homeopener versus Boston on Friday - rain or shine - I know I'll be watching some ball. Brian i’d pay to get hit by the Marvelous one! But no excuses necessary.

I’m with you on setting things to time line. Operations aren’t egg timers. Though there is more than the reason you listed as to why that shouldn’t be the case. The main one that always gets under my skin is the lack of definitiion to an end. What is”success”. What is a “stable working” gov’t? And how is one put into place by a multi-national force.

I think you mean NATO instead of UN. There are no UN forces in Afghanistan. There is a plan for the ANA to step up - but the schedule for that to happen is fairly unrealistic - see Roy’s Post about the ammo below.

Margo- thank God it’s Toronto and we have the SkyDOME. Because when I go to the homeopener versus Boston on Friday - rain or shine - I know I’ll be watching some ball.

]]> By: margo_0 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48387 margo_0 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:18:29 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48387 Happy birthday to you both! ^_^ and yes, the toronto weather is quite crap today isnt it? aha Happy birthday to you both! ^_^
and yes, the toronto weather is quite crap today isnt it? aha

]]> By: Brian Smart http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48386 Brian Smart Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:16:03 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48386 Sorry...4th line should have the word "know" in there between "enemy" and "that", and there is an "h" in Afghanistan. Sick kid...up very early...tired Dad...fell like I took one in the head from Marvin myself. Sorry…4th line should have the word “know” in there between “enemy” and “that”, and there is an “h” in Afghanistan.

Sick kid…up very early…tired Dad…fell like I took one in the head from Marvin myself.

]]> By: Brian Smart http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48382 Brian Smart Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:01:19 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48382 Yeah I don't understand the comparisons either. Nor do I understand the logic behind trying to decide on a specific time to pull out of Afghanistan. I do not profess to be an expert on things military, but to me it seems contrary to the the goals of any mission to let the enemy that you are going to fight like hell, but only until next year and then you plan on going home. That's fine if there's other U.N. forces in line to take over or a plan for local military forces to step in - but I don't get the sense that's the case in Afganistan. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to have them all home today. p.s. all the cat lovers are going to be up your ass now...you know that right? Yeah I don’t understand the comparisons either. Nor do I understand the logic behind trying to decide on a specific time to pull out of Afghanistan. I do not profess to be an expert on things military, but to me it seems contrary to the the goals of any mission to let the enemy that you are going to fight like hell, but only until next year and then you plan on going home. That’s fine if there’s other U.N. forces in line to take over or a plan for local military forces to step in - but I don’t get the sense that’s the case in Afganistan. Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to have them all home today.

p.s. all the cat lovers are going to be up your ass now…you know that right?

]]> By: T-Lee http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48381 T-Lee Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:55:58 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48381 Raymi, Happy Birthday to the girl with the most beautiful porcelin skin I have ever seen in my life. t Raymi, Happy Birthday to the girl with the most beautiful porcelin skin I have ever seen in my life.

t

]]> By: raymi http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48380 raymi Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:47:26 +0000 http://www.matthewgood.org/2008/03/hagler-never-asked-for-help-from-nato-versus-hearns/#comment-48380 thanks pitt thanks uncle matt thanks pitt thanks uncle matt

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