Of all those that served in the military in my family, the one common trait shared by all of them is that they did not like to talk about their experiences. My Grandfather and Great Uncles went to lengths to avoid the topic, and as an inquisitive youngster I was sometimes scolded for my curiosity. At the time, of course, I couldn’t understand why, but as a grown man it’s something that I do.

Other members of my extended family have also served and seen combat, among them a cousin who was a United States Marine and a Great Uncle who served in Korea. In fact, my father came within an inch of becoming a member of the US Air Force in the 60’s after writing multiple aptitude tests which would have led to his serving as a member of a B-52 crew during Vietnam, most likely as a Navigations Officer. Thankfully, my Grandmother was adamantly opposed to the idea and he eventually declined the opportunity.

Death is in the eyes. When you spend time with a veteran that has witnessed the horrors of conflict that reality is ever present in their gaze. My Grandfather had it, my Great Uncles had it, and so do some of my friends, among them Patrick Pitt, one of this website’s contributing authors, a CF Artillery Captain that served twice in Afghanistan and, prior to that, throughout the Balkans. Daniel Regelburgge, a one-time matthewgood.org author, veteran of Iraq and NATO operations throughout the Balkans, and currently stationed at The Pentagon, does as well. Added to this list is also another site author, Roy El-Saghir, who was a member of the 82nd Airborne in the 1980’s and served in locations where US personnel weren’t supposed to be active, let alone involved in combat operations.

I mention this because a very real schism exists between public perception of military service and the reality and confusion faced by those that serve during wartime. The more politically complex the conflict, the greater that schism becomes. An example of this exists in the position of pro-war pundits that have, over the last seven years, completely skewed the line between military service and government policy. It has become entirely commonplace to suggest that if one does not support the political objectives of those that have taken us to war that those that have been sent to implement such policies are somehow being dishonoured and betrayed. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth, as it is entirely possible to support the welfare of our soldiers while adamantly disagreeing with the policies that have placed them in harms way.

The media has, of course, played a leading role in blurring such lines, leading to the diminishment of any negative information conveyed by veterans with regards to their experiences. After seven years of fighting, both in Iraq and Afghanistan, US veterans were finally gifted the opportunity to address Congress last Thursday about their experiences. And while they might not represent the totality of all those in uniform, their testimonies should not be overlooked nor marginalized…

“Antiwar veterans of the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan took their case to Capitol Hill Thursday, baring their souls with stories of killings of innocent civilians, torture, and wrongful detentions.

“On several occasions our convoys came upon bodies that had been lying on the road, sometimes for weeks,” said Marine Corps veteran Vincent Emanuele, who served in al-Qaim near the Syrian border in 2004 and 2005.

“When encountering these bodies standard procedure was to run over the corpses, sometimes even stopping and taking pictures, which was also standard practice when encountering the dead in Iraq,” he told the Congressional Progressive Caucus, which organized the hearing.

Emanuele also said that U.S. military personnel often took “pot shots” at cars passing by.

“Our rules of engagement stated that we should first fire warning shots into the ground in front of the car, then the engine block, and the windshield. That is if the car was even moving in the first place,” he said. “Many times cars that actually had pulled off to the side of the road were also shot at.”

Thursday’s hearing was an outgrowth of an event in Maryland earlier this year called “Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan - Eyewitness Accounts of the Occupations.” For four days in March, dozens of veterans of the two wars testified about atrocities they personally committed or witnessed while deployed overseas.

At the time, many of the veterans expressed a desire to take their case to Capitol Hill. Thursday they got their wish.

Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, addressed a panel of veterans at the start of the hearing.

“We now have an opportunity to hear not from the military’s top brass but directly from you,” she said, “the very soldiers who put your lives on the line to carry out this president’s failed policies.”

Nine veterans of the Iraq war told their stories before members of Congress and a packed gallery. One of the veterans had also served in Afghanistan. About 40 veterans were in the audience.

The veterans spoke about extremely lax rules of engagement handed down by commanding officers, which they said virtually guaranteed atrocities would be committed, and which in turn created a violent backlash among Iraqi people and a continued cycle of violence.

Former U.S. Army Capt. Luis Carlos Montalvan served directly under Gen. David Petraeus in 2005 and 2006.

“We have beaten our drum to try to raise the issue of the dereliction of duty committed by a number of generals who have been promoted and promoted again and continue to perpetuate the lies [that] paint a rosy picture of the situation in Iraq,” he said.

Montalvan said he personally witnessed U.S. military personnel carrying out waterboarding, the mock-drowning interrogation technique that has long been considered torture by U.S. courts.

Former Srgt. Adam Kokesh presented a picture of himself standing, smiling, in front of a dead Iraqi civilian that another marine had shot.

“This is a picture that I’m very ashamed of, having posed with this dead Iraqi as a trophy picture,” he said. “But what felt awkward to me at the time was not so much that I was taking the picture, but the fact that I had not killed this man and I was taking a trophy from somebody else’s kill.”

Kokesh said the person in the trophy photo was an innocent civilian whose car was accidentally “lit up” by marines.

Kokesh referenced similar photos that surfaced during and after the Vietnam war — some of which were presented at a “Winter Soldier” gathering organized by Vietnam veterans 37 years ago.

“At the first Winter Soldier investigation in 1971, one of the Vietnam veterans held up a similar photograph and said ‘Don’t ever let your government do this to you. Don’t ever let your government put you in a position where this attitude towards death and disregard for human life is acceptable or common.’ And we are still doing this to service members every day as long as these occupations continue,” he added.

Kokesh said his Marine Corps Civil Affairs team, including a major, was present when the trophy photo was taken. Numerous other marines also snapped their picture with the corpse, he said.

Members of Iraq Veterans Against the War hope this week’s hearing will spark an investigation by a full Congressional committee and speed the end of the wars.

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) praised the veterans who spoke Thursday. “I want to thank you for having more courage than many members of Congress have — for coming here in defiance of what you have been instructed and taught to do,” she said. “They attempted to tell you that you should be satisfied by everything that you saw and everything that you did and everything you witnessed, but you’re not. I praise and honor you for that.”

The veterans’ testimony, however, may be overshadowed by an unrelated legislative maneuver that occurred just steps away from their hearing room Thursday: the House of Representatives defeated a $162.5 billion proposal to continue funding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

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    Look at me with the first comments and everything all art related! This never usually happens! lol. There’s an interesting piece in OUR permanent collection by Canadian Artist Frances Dorosey called “Dragon’s Teeth”
    The artist is based primarily in textiles which by those who have no education isn’t considered an art form. She created a quilt out of scraps of red material sewn together and using all her own home made dyes imprinted an image of her father on the quilt and his buddies from the war in vietnam. When on the wall the piece gives the sense of doom as it appears there figures have been burned right into the material. When her father died she recieved his journal, she silk screened it right onto the quilt and it is terriying. I saw her at an artist talk, she spoke about how shell-shocked her father was when he came home and how he refused to speak about the war. She remembered him as a kind calm man when he left but when he came home he was quiet, paranoid, and dove behind the couch at any loud noise. Being as young as she was at the time she internalized a lot of this feeling and at times even felt scared of her dad. It changed for her when he died and she was able to read his journal. You can view the piece here: http://www.msvuart.ca if you ever feel interested in looking it, really neat stuff but I felt it emobodied a lot of what you were writing so I wanted to share!

    05 / 18 / 10:09
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    That thing about the eyes, and the silence…I grew up with it too. More lessons there than in any history book…

    Here’s hoping those testimonies are light at the end of this long, dark tunnel.

    Raina - that work is really interesting, thanks for posting. You work at the MSVU gallery? We probably know some of the same people…
    :-)

    05 / 18 / 11:09
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    “Death is in the eyes.”

    It sure is a haunting look…Matthew, have you ever read “Donkeys”, an account of the First World War lambs to the slaughter?

    05 / 18 / 12:03
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    I don’t know if I’m observant enough to notice the look in the eyes of veterans who have seen death. Maybe it’s just because most of the men I knew growing up served in some form of the military and I just don’t know anything different. Even as an adult many of the men that I know have served, I’ve even lived most of my life near a military base. I was raised to be a comfort to those kinds of men and to not ask those questions even though I was horribly curious. Maybe I am observant enough, I was just brought up to respect that gaze and to accept it as a part of life. Though I was never told but the example was set to me that as a woman I can’t change that look, the only thing I can do is to provide support for those men in my life who have seen such horrors.

    The ‘support our troops’ movement that happened here in the US with its push in 2003 was a great opportunity for women like me to get out there and do something. With our conservative upbringings and communities we weren’t supposed to object to the war, but we couldn’t bring ourselves to support it because it would mean people we loved were being asked to put their lives on the line (among other reasons of course). It was nice to have something positive to focus on.

    05 / 18 / 12:34
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    This shows that Bush purposely sabotaged the war by having generals hand down directives to the soldiers that made them do things that in essence prolonged the war. Makes sense now that a quick in and out strategy would not have helped to line his pockets.

    http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/mstrshake/bush.gif

    05 / 18 / 14:10
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    ““Antiwar veterans of the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan took their case to Capitol Hill Thursday, baring their souls with stories of killings of innocent civilians, torture, and wrongful detentions.”

    If the nine ex-soldiers who testified killed innocent civilians, tortured anyone or wrongfully detained anyone, I applaud their confession and await their arrest.

    If they have additional evidence against others. they should immeciately present it to the Inspector Generals Office so that they might effect an arrest.

    John Kerry admitted to comitting war crimes and of seeing others commit atrocities. He was never charged. Let’s make sure this never happens again.

    05 / 18 / 16:32
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    Matt, reading your post above reminded me of 10 years ago when I asked my grandfather about his experiences in WWII for a school project. That is when I learned he had been in an infantry unit that went around liberating the Nazi death camps. He showed me photos he had taken and the look on face told me more than his words ever could. I hadn’t heard of him speak of it before nor since. There are things that we are not meant to have to live with experiencing. Yet, we ask our soldiers to and give them so little “real” support in return.

    In a month one of my dear friends leaves to join the army and my heart breaks knowing that the friend I have now will not be the same man when he returns.

    05 / 18 / 23:20
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    Quoting “BJ”:

    That is when I learned he had been in an infantry unit that went around liberating the Nazi death camps.

    My grandfather did something similar in WWII. To this day he can’t watch commercials for organizations like the Christian Children’s Fund with their pictures of starving children…he has to leave the room.

    05 / 18 / 23:23
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    dad’s dad was a medic during the second world war. he was mute about his experience

    05 / 19 / 05:41
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    Trauma takes the life out of you. It’s scary stuff. There’s virtually no fixing it either, unless you want to spend the rest of your life in regular EMDR treatments.

    05 / 19 / 21:29
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    @ Robert R: “If the nine ex-soldiers who testified killed innocent civilians, tortured anyone or wrongfully detained anyone, I applaud their confession and await their arrest.”

    You seem to suggest that only those who publicly oppose the war should be arrested. There is plenty of evidence on the ground in Iraq for a more broad investigation.

    05 / 20 / 07:35
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    This is an interesting post that actually hits home for me. I had 2 cousins that served in the Vietnam war. This was my mom’s sister’s family and we were really close so I spent a lot of my childhood and adolecent days around them and their families. My cousin, the oldest of the boys, came back stuttering; an affliction that manifested while in the war. He has never been the same and always refused to talk about the experience. In him, I see the look that you are talking about. He has never gotten over it and still carries it with him to this day. His brother, however, was didcharged due to a gun shot wound to the head. Luckily, it was not life threatening. He would be willing to speak about it but until I started actually listening to what he had to say, I never really could conceive of what kind of atrocities they would encounter. “The horror” pretty much sums it up. Stuff that I actually have trouble repeating myself. It is totally necessary to support the people that are sent to war regardless of how you feel about the cause. I never have or would support a war but I feel for those soldiers that are out there day in and day out; whether they, themselves, believe in the reasoning behind it.

    05 / 20 / 13:00
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    The veterans that came forward should not neccessarily be arrested due to the nature that they were following orders under bad command or command decisions. They were doing what they were told, if they did not follow this then they may of be penalized based on their actions. Furthermore if this being said then others would not come forward with this so the public can be aware and themselves imprisoned.

    05 / 20 / 13:50

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