Make A Video – Shoot Some People
Make a video, shoot some people. You made the front page of the BBC’s website, guess it worked. No idea what led to it, 22 is awfully young to come to the conclusion that going on a suicidal killing spree is a good idea – or any idea at all.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 am
I’ll never understand why people always say “I can’t believe this happened in a town like ours.” This can happen anywhere there are people. That’s all it takes. People.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:12 am
“Minimum age for buying a gun is 15″
Wow.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:48 am
Every fall.
It seems like a Worldly Event. Now.
It takes people.
But all it needs is one individual…
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:04 am
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, What the hell is wrong with people? Seriously.
School shootings, bus decapitations, the whole nine yards.
People are fucked.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:14 am
22 freaking years old. I could barely remember to pay the cable bill at 22 let alone make sweeping decisions that would have everlasting consequences. Why is it getting progressively less difficult for children to grow into either monsters or terrified victims that feel they have no other available option?
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:17 am
I don’t know, when I was 22 I decided to get some cats.
All I can say is that when someone decides to blast their schoolmates they probably don’t think about the consequences, making sense of it might be impossible because there might not be any sense in it.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:35 am
One of my friends.. well, acquaintance now… bought a gun for about $200 a couple of weeks ago before a tropical storm hit. His reasoning was that “when the tropical storm hits, Richmond will lose power and black people will try to kill us.” I think his major is homeland security :\
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 am
Well it’s okay, with more law enforcement agencies being given the “right” to detain without charge and mass surveillance (monitoring conversations etc.) they’ll be able to arrest depressed people before they/we hurt anyone. With generous use of torture (just following the American model here), surely people will come around.
Why is it getting less difficult for kids to grow into monsters? Why is it getting less difficult to advertise directly to kids under 12? Why do kids constantly have to figure out what to do with the conflicting values and priorities those advertisements are giving them? Why are studies done to figure out how to use advertising in order to crank up nagging by children? Why are kids feeling like every time they flip on the TV someone’s bringing violence into their living room and that nobody’s sitting down with them to explain it (not pro-censorship just pro-parenting)? Why is the gap between social classes widening so dramatically? Why are we all so attached to having our friends and family with us all the time (cell phones, PDA’s, facebook, myspace, messengers…)? Why do we want to be so connected that nobody really cares about each other anymore, being that we already know what’s going on with the person 24/7? Why do we create overcrowding and isolation all at the same time? The list goes on…
It’s terrible that it keeps happening, very sad. I’m sure that there is more to it and maybe less, depends on the person, and I don’t mean any disrespect.
BTW - Parachute pants were awful, I would have been less violent in high school if more people had shown up without them.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am
btw - Why does Harper think that when a kid makes a dumb mistake (s)he should grow into an adult who has a tougher time getting jobs and a tougher time escaping labels/ fitting into more civil social circles? Won’t that make it tougher for the person to change or have a reason to?
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
[quote comment="66157"]btw - Why does Harper think that when a kid makes a dumb mistake (s)he should grow into an adult who has a tougher time getting jobs and a tougher time escaping labels/ fitting into more civil social circles? Won’t that make it tougher for the person to change or have a reason to?[/quote]
I am generally the very last person to defend Harper or any of his policies, but in this case, I have to side with him. He’s not talking about the kids who make dumb mistakes; he’s talking about those who commit violent crimes (which, in my opinion, can never be classified as “dumb mistakes”).
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:38 pm
[quote comment="66150"]I don’t know, when I was 22 I decided to get some cats.
All I can say is that when someone decides to blast their schoolmates they probably don’t think about the consequences, making sense of it might be impossible because there might not be any sense in it.[/quote]
I think it’s because society is beginning to view life as disposable- just like everything else around us.
http://repliderium.com/crap/school-shootings-and-youtube/
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:02 pm
The 11 year old kid down the street has watched all the Saw movies. That’s the kind of kid who grows up to be like this guy.
But I can’t even begin to recount how messed up his entire family is.
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
And I thought it was a tragic trend only in the USA and Canada
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:16 pm
So I guess in a week we’ll all forget about this…??? Seems to be a trend.
No disrespect intended. School suicide shootings just isn’t news to me anymore, it seems to have become more of a reality that I have to accept as my son enters high school, which is about 15 years away, so it should be more predominant by then, considering we (world collective “we”) can’t seem to figure out how to stop it.
It’s exactly what MooseCracker said, but in order to change this stupid shit, our economies would need to take a BIG hit and the majority isn’t interested in saving anyone but themselves these days. There would need to be BIG changes, financial changes, community changes, and companies would need to find another way to burn a hole in your pocket. Not gonna happen anytime soon.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Usually it’s knifings in the UK and they are far rarer than US shootings. No less tragic or screwed up, of course.
I think it is a matter of detachment. When I read or hear of school shooting my main reaction now is, unfortunately, indifference.
But Gun Control should never go ahead. Having guns make people safer… right?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
My main point in the knifing thing is that a knifing is so much more emotive and personal, whereas pulling the trigger is impersonal and dehumanizing.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Oh and by the by, in the small city Regina, Sask (where I live) a student held a pellet gun to a pastors head at a Christian High School to force him into reading a letter he had written as a grievance for being expelled from the school the year prior. However, they didn’t know it was a pellet gun until much later into the confrontation. I’m sure the video is available at CTV or YouTube by now. Anyways, it just proved my point.
September 24th, 2008 at 2:14 am
[quote comment="66224"]Usually it’s knifings in the UK and they are far rarer than US shootings. No less tragic or screwed up, of course.
I thought that the UK knife preference had a direct correlation to the fact that bobbies didn’t carry guns, and so the criminal element didn’t much feel the need either. Not sure where I read it, and I believe the bobbies carry guns now anyway. Still, while you can of course kill someone with a knife, it does require the commitment to get up close & personal about it in a way that guns just bypass. Dehumanized is exactly right.
September 24th, 2008 at 2:18 am
Oops, I clearly made an error with the “quote” feature - first-time, I’m afraid! Here’s how that was supposed to look:
[quote comment="66224"]Usually it’s knifings in the UK and they are far rarer than US shootings. No less tragic or screwed up, of course.
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I thought that the UK knife preference had a direct correlation to the fact that bobbies didn’t carry guns, and so the criminal element didn’t much feel the need either. Not sure where I read it, and I believe the bobbies carry guns now anyway. Still, while you can of course kill someone with a knife, it does require the commitment to get up close & personal about it in a way that guns just bypass. Dehumanized is exactly right.
September 24th, 2008 at 2:57 am
[quote comment="66160"][quote comment="66150"]I don’t know, when I was 22 I decided to get some cats.
All I can say is that when someone decides to blast their schoolmates they probably don’t think about the consequences, making sense of it might be impossible because there might not be any sense in it.[/quote]
I think it’s because society is beginning to view life as disposable- just like everything else around us.
http://repliderium.com/crap/school-shootings-and-youtube//quote
Definitely some truth in that. We don’t think about the consequences of chucking our litter all over the street, or crapping away fossil fuels and so forth. If society views life as disposable, just like a used up McDonalds box it is my view that this is because people have become disassociated from one another and can’t see the consequences of their actions. Blowing your schoolmates away could be this attitude taken to the extreme.
thanks for the link.