Moyers: Rage on the Radio
This is a fantastic piece that I highly recommend watching…
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September 15th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
I’m halfway through this video and I’m filled with rage.
September 15th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
“That’s where we are as a nation now. We’re in a state of vague American values and anti-intellectual pride.”
- David Cross
September 15th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
That! Should be on your nightly newscast!!
That was awsome!!
September 15th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
i truly dont understand what motivates these people to preach hatred
September 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
I can handle people who hate liberals, Michael Moore, and 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists. To a lesser extent, I can bite my tongue when someone bashes various races and homosexuals, though it makes me angry.
But when you call autistic kids brats who haven’t been told to cut the act, then you sir are not human.
Can I send this Reverend Brice some money somehow?
September 15th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
How are those people so far behind!?
That was hilarious.
September 15th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Unfortunately those guys are not so unique. All you need to do is read some of the user comments on the CBC website about shootings in urban areas, issues surrounding race - most of the major newspaper sites are all the same.
It’s fear, frustration, lack of empathy and understanding. They don’t understand something so they are afraid of it and they grow to hate it. Some of them are not satisfied just to hate it alone so they have to encourage others to hate it with them. Misery loves company - and so does hatred I guess. I hear this shit all the time - my kids attend a school in the Yukon and it is right across the road from some of their lands. At the school they teach Southern Tutchone in one of the classes, have a very high number of First Nations children and teachers. I often hear in conversations with non- First Nations individuals “Oh…you send your kids to that school? Don’t they teach them all that native bullshit there?” I usually reply that as far as I know kids generally learn bullshit from their parents and not at school.
September 15th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Their anger and intolerance just make me so sad. There is no way to change these people. The best we can hope for is to outnumber them, turn down the volume on their rage by pressuring sponsors not to support them, But in the end, it’s all about money.
I do believe that all of this hatred is facilitated by distance from the target, as the Reverend stated. Yelling over a radio or bashing out hateful comments on the computer are a lot easier than actually sitting in the same room with someone. And once people see the other as a human, it is more difficult to summon up that rage. They did a neat thing with kids from Northern Ireland, bringing Catholic and Protestant kids together for a summer camp in Ontario. These are kids who would never associate with each other back home. At first they didn’t want to have anything to do with the “others”. But through normal kid stuff–games, etc.–they became friends. It was quite sad because several of them commented on this but said the reality was that when they went back home, even though the other guy was now a friend, they wouldn’t be able to maintain the friendship because of societal pressures. However, the hope is a seed was planted. I guess we can hope to do that with our young.
September 15th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Bill Moyers Journal is almost certainly the most important program available on American televison.
It is always fascinating (and far too often frightening).
Anyone who does not have access to PBS on their television should do themselves a favour and watch it on the web:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
September 15th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
it makes me sick that we reside in a world such as this (not like we had a say in the matter) but this is life…i don’t know what to say other than my heart bleeds for all those who have been belittled/degraded/shoved in an alley like yesterdays trash…i wish i had superpowers. i don’t know where to begin as to help anyone out other than to offer a smoke to someone, offer words of encouragement, transform into a cushion if/when their world falls apart…this is horrific, but i guess this is our planet and we are supposed to learn something from this…thank you for the post, i guess the more we see of what is going on, a better idea we have when attempting to understand. but i think what is sad too is the fact we maybe understand all to well and there is not a damn thing we can do about it except ride it out like it was the largest natural disaster to ever threaten mankind…it makes me sick to think about what children of today and tomorrow are going to have to face, especially if they face challenges such as autism.
September 15th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
I like the part where Glenn Beck was verbally attacking Al Gore for making Global Warming an enemy that had to be fought, to rally the people , etc etc… comparing the tactic to those that Hitler used.
Ironic, given that that’s exactly what happened with the so called War on Terror.
I guess that tactic is ok for some but not for others.
September 15th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Im thinking of killing Glenn Beck, and Im thinking if I could kill him myself… or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. I think I could, I think he could be looking me in the eye, and I could just be choking the life outta… is parody wrong?
In regards to Michael Reagan… take him out and shoot him. He’s a traitor to this country, and shoot them. But anybody who would do that doesn’t deserve to live, you shoot em… you call him a traitor, thats what he is and you shoot him…. I’ll pay for the bullet.
September 15th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
My jaw dropped a good amount of times during this video.
That was just downright scary.
September 15th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
The wackos profiled in this video are clearly that. Many of them should be charged and even jailed.
However, it is worth pointing out how much intolerance and strife originates directly from religion.
September 15th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
It’s just more sensationalism… only on the radio. It sells and we listen and we’re shocked.. and it keeps selling. It’s sick but true. How do we win against this? We’re gonna need a whole lot of duct tape to shut them up.
September 15th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Would any of that be possible here in Canada? I don’t think so. Our definaition of free speech and where it crosses over the boundary into hate and racism is different apparently.
The human rights tribunal cases, for instance the one involving the comedian and the lesbian hecklers sure is a contrast. The comission has come under a lot of scrutiny lately for the cases it is willing to consider, but perhaps it’s better to err on the side of caution regarding these things.
I sense that some Americans would say that those radio hosts have a right to free speech and that it is an essential part of the “freedom” that makes Americans so proud.
What a strange kind of freedom…
September 15th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Sorry, “definition”… I know, type, edit, then post (in that order)
September 15th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
[quote comment="65286"]Would any of that be possible here in Canada? I don’t think so. Our definaition of free speech and where it crosses over the boundary into hate and racism is different apparently.
The human rights tribunal cases, for instance the one involving the comedian and the lesbian hecklers sure is a contrast. The comission has come under a lot of scrutiny lately for the cases it is willing to consider, but perhaps it’s better to err on the side of caution regarding these things.
I sense that some Americans would say that those radio hosts have a right to free speech and that it is an essential part of the “freedom” that makes Americans so proud.
What a strange kind of freedom…[/quote]
Hmmmmm, ever hear of Lorne Greene? I think that guy is borderline sometimes.
September 15th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Ah shit. LOWELL Green, not Lorne Green. What the hell was I thinking?
I gotta go to bed.
Quoting “alwayslistening” ….” I know, type, edit, then post (in that order)” So, so true!!!!
September 15th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
That just blow me away. Some of the radio shows on now brain wash there audience, and the audience doesn’t even know why, they just go along with whatever the talk show person says. It’s like a cult following. Pretty scary if you ask me.
September 16th, 2008 at 7:31 am
[quote comment="65251"]I can handle people who hate liberals, Michael Moore, and 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists. To a lesser extent, I can bite my tongue when someone bashes various races and homosexuals, though it makes me angry.
But when you call autistic kids brats who haven’t been told to cut the act, then you sir are not human.
Can I send this Reverend Brice some money somehow?[/quote]
Let’s be careful, and not be so quick to dehumanize the dehumanizers in a fit of terrible irony.
September 16th, 2008 at 7:32 am
[quote comment="65289"]Ah shit. LOWELL Green, not Lorne Green. What the hell was I thinking?
I gotta go to bed.
Quoting “alwayslistening” ….” I know, type, edit, then post (in that order)”
So, so true!!!![/quote]
A good point! Lowel Green emphatically preaches paranoia-based intolerance.
September 16th, 2008 at 8:34 am
[quote comment="65289"]Ah shit. LOWELL Green, not Lorne Green. What the hell was I thinking?
I gotta go to bed.
Quoting “alwayslistening” ….” I know, type, edit, then post (in that order)”
So, so true!!!![/quote]
Obviously you did not see that episode of Bonanza where he lectured Hoss and Little Joe about the evils of homosexuality after he caught them dressing up in women’s clothes out in the barn.
September 16th, 2008 at 9:21 am
The scary thing is people who listen to that stuff regularly probably agree with most of what those radio personalities are saying.
September 16th, 2008 at 9:47 am
I also would like to add that Glenn Beck is one of the most annoying characters I have ever seen on television.
September 16th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Where was Ann Coulter’s point of views in here?
September 16th, 2008 at 10:57 am
[quote comment="65286"]Would any of that be possible here in Canada? I don’t think so. Our definaition of free speech and where it crosses over the boundary into hate and racism is different apparently.
The human rights tribunal cases, for instance the one involving the comedian and the lesbian hecklers sure is a contrast. The comission has come under a lot of scrutiny lately for the cases it is willing to consider, but perhaps it’s better to err on the side of caution regarding these things.
I sense that some Americans would say that those radio hosts have a right to free speech and that it is an essential part of the “freedom” that makes Americans so proud.
What a strange kind of freedom…[/quote]
Guess again, these guys exist in Canada, too. Turn on your AM radio during the day and listen carefully…
you’ll find it’s much more liberating to leave it off, and make up your mind for yourself through alternative news.
September 16th, 2008 at 11:04 am
I find it interesting that people still write off obvious propaganda as just being someone’s paranoid conspiracy theory. Advertising by itself is propaganda, and these large conglomerates serve advertising money.
September 16th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Want to see the John Q. Public version of this? Just go onto the CBC website and start reading some of hte reader comments related to the shooting incident in a Toronto school - it will scare the shit out of you -they sound like disciples of these guys.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
great find. ulgy folk
September 16th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
[quote comment="65334"]Want to see the John Q. Public version of this? Just go onto the CBC website and start reading some of hte reader comments related to the shooting incident in a Toronto school - it will scare the shit out of you -they sound like disciples of these guys.[/quote]
Right about that, and to a lesser extent the Micheal Corwin show on CLT. They don’t speak violently but they do go on about everything being the far left liberal loons fault and yadda yadda. I believe the main reason they do this is because they see their old world view going the way of the dinosaur as the boomers age and they want to inspire an new generation of bigots and xenophobes, their extinction can’t come soon enough.
September 16th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
[quote comment="65334"]Just go onto the CBC website and start reading some of hte reader comments related to the shooting incident in a Toronto school - it will scare the shit out of you -they sound like disciples of these guys.[/quote]
I took your suggestion and had a look. Topic was gun control in Canada and it brought out the usual arguments on both sides. I read 14 pages of comments until I got bored of it. In 14 pages, not a single reference to god.
That’s different.
September 16th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
[quote comment="65244"]“That’s where we are as a nation now. We’re in a state of vague American values and anti-intellectual pride.”
- David Cross[/quote]
David Cross is hilarious.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Lowell Green, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin etc always makes think of something the good Doctor once wrote called “The Hammerhead Shark”
Here’s an excerpt:
“John Wayne is a final, rotten symbol of everything that went wrong with the American Dream - he is our Frankenstein monster, a hero to millions. Wayne is the ultimate & perhaps final “American”. He beats the mortal shit out of anything he can’t understand. The brainwave of “The Duke” are like those of the Hammerhead Shark - a beast so stupid and irrationally vicious that scientists have abandoned all hope of dealing with it, except as an unexplainable “throwback”. The Hammerhead, they say, is no different today than he was in One Million B.C. He is ruthless, stupid beast with only one instinct - to attack, to hurt & cripple & kill. There is no evidence in modern science that the Hammerhead Shark had any ancestors - and no descendants, either. But science is at least half-wrong on this count. Like many another species, the Hammerhead survived by moving to a new habitat. The most advanced of them came out of the sea and learned to walk on land. They learned to speak American - despite their tiny brains… “
Sound familiar?
Kill what you don’t understand
Fear all things new or different
The bonus is, these people are in a public forum. We know who they are and exactly what their agenda is. It’s the ones we don’t know about until it’s to late that we need to worry about.
Before the year 2000, who here had honestly, ever heard of The Project for the New American Century???
September 17th, 2008 at 9:33 am
I somehow, by mistake posted this last entry under “The Surge”
Please ignore it
September 17th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Wow…a whole lotta ignorance in right wingers…
If you’re poor, you deserve to die.
If you’re gay you deserve to die.
If you’re Liberal you deserve to die.
And so on…Isn’t that trying to eliminate “imperfection” to make a “perfect” race?
Ring a bell?
September 19th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
One always worries possible threats from terrorist organizations. But just as much a threat in my opinion is radical unfounded extreme views with in the U.S. We all remember Timothy McVeigh? I am a Christian. I consider myself a middle of the road, conservative. I am very tolerant to other religions and persons views. It was the way I was brought up. I do not relate to these extreme conservative views, which in many cases are distorted and unfounded opinions, which are fueled by these far right wing radio and TV shows. I just can not get over that people actually listen to this radical dialogue ‘day in and day out’ on the radio. I get into many, to say the least, enlightening polictical discussions with some of my more religious right wing, republican, fellow workers. Usually the discussion revolves around how democrats will ‘mess things up’ if they get into White House. I’ve always notice how aggressive the dialogue is towards the democrats, even if it’s expressed in a half hearted way. Being a Canadian and observing it from a totally middle of the road perspective it is one of those distinct differences as I see it between the two countries politically. It is one thing to be passionate about ones politics, but one needs not to loose sight of being respectful of others views and the democratic process, and not have an opinion ‘all democrats need to be shot’ as an example. The Moyer’s news piece really puts this all into perspective.
One last thought. In these political discussions some where in there will be interjected the ‘God Bless America’ into their conversation. With absolutely no disrespect to my cousin Americans, I question the person, ’should we not in this present day God Bless the world and the human race?’ Now that catches them off guard!
On a more personnel note as far as Matt is concerned. I took this southern gal I was dating at one time up to Canada. It was her first trip to the ‘Great White North’. I worked the trip home to seeing two of Matt Good shows at the Capitol Music Hall in Ottawa. The first show at one point between songs Matt got to saying something about the war and Bush. This gal I was dating (in the end I figured out she had an inherent insecurity issues, which is why we eventually broke up) got all spun out. She was like ‘who is this Matt Good? Is he a communist?”…lol I can laugh about it now. I said to her ‘give me a break’. He can say (Matt) what he wants. You don’t have to agree with his opinion. I told her it’s like Ted Nugent, opening for ZZ Top one time, announcing that ‘If you don’t support this war, you need to get your god dam liberal ass out of this country’. I just laughed at him. And of course I did not agree with his view. To say the least I went the second night of Matt’s show and took a good friend from back home. I had a GREAT time after leaving the girlfriend back at my parents! Yes I did…